Dec 13, 2010, 12:19 AM
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mistairjoe | |
mistairjoe Registered User Thread OP | Question Again i am in search for some decent drawings or plans for a Macchi M33.Thanks Joe |
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Dec 13, 2010, 12:49 PM
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1post Suspended Account | I'm sure you are aware of the UK plan at Model-Plans UK. I'd take a screen capture, enlarge the image and go from there. It's really not bad, once you clean them up a bit: I don't know how to contact this guy, but I'd love to get this plan:
There's not much out there on this plane, as I looked quite a bit when I scratch built mine, bashing a GWS ME262 kit and ME109 wing. I actually ended up with a good flyer, but still need to get it off water. Maybe the water rudder added will help with control. |
Dec 13, 2010, 06:17 PM
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mistairjoe | |
mistairjoe Registered User Thread OP | I found him.His name is David Plumpe and he is a Col. Hurst Bowers fan of Flyline fame.He promised to send me a three view. |
Dec 14, 2010, 09:19 AM
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LADDIE | |
LADDIE Registered User | Hi Joe. Here is the three view. About three years ago I built all foam 50 version from this three view. I wish I built 60 to reduce wing loading. The landing speed had to be kept high, other vice it would tip stall. ImagesView all Images in thread
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Dec 14, 2010, 10:55 AM
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DPlumpe | |
DPlumpe AMA 8711, FCC K4WZA | Here's the 3-view I offered mistairjoe. It's essentially a drawing I put together on the way to doing my construction plans. Laddie - Could you offer your 3view in a bit higher resolution so we can see details better? Any idea of the source? - Dave Plumpe FilesView all Files in thread
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Dec 14, 2010, 01:02 PM
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LADDIE | |
LADDIE Registered User | Dave, I do not know how to get better resolution. When I click on the thumbnail and the drawing goes to full size, I get good resolution. As far source goes, I do not know in which French magazine it was. Sorry. |
Dec 14, 2010, 02:11 PM
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DPlumpe | |
DPlumpe AMA 8711, FCC K4WZA | Laddie - The image I get when I click on your 3-view thumbnail is too fuzzy to read most of the dimensions. If the scan you have on your computer is significantly better, the problem is likely that your scan is larger than 1024 pixels, RCGroups limits JPG images to a maximum of 1024 pixels and they arbitrarily downsized your scan to that. If that's the case, you could attach your original to an email to me at plumpe@charter.net and I'll convert it to a PDF and repost it. -Dave Plumpe |
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Dec 14, 2010, 07:25 PM
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mistairjoe | |
mistairjoe Registered User Thread OP | Laddie is there anything in your library you don't have on file.That's great. it will give me enough to go on. Thanks, Dave thanks for your help also.Joe |
Dec 15, 2010, 02:32 AM
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1post Suspended Account | Quote: Originally Posted by LADDIE Hi Joe. Here is the three view. About three years ago I built all foam 50 version from this three view. I wish I built 60 to reduce wing loading. The landing speed had to be kept high, other vice it would tip stall. Nice looking foam build. I wish I had built my foam version at 50", and not 32" ImagesView all Images in thread
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Dec 15, 2010, 08:09 AM
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LADDIE | |
LADDIE Registered User | As I remember, my model was flying fine when flown relatively fast. I did not experienced any difficulty turning. The landings were unpredictable. Most of the time the model would land nicely. It depended on several factors, like speed, the wind direction and if approach is in the straight line or I was turning close to the water surface because obstacles. Other problem I had with the model was the water entering radio compartment. Specially if the water surface was choppy. No amount of Vaseline in the saddle area would seal it completely. I placed piece of sponge foam to the bottom of the fuselage so it would pick up small amount of water. I suspended the receiver so if wasnt touching sides or the bottom. Even that did not help. On one flight, just after takeoff the model rolled over and hit the water hard. That was end of my Macchi. ImagesView all Images in thread
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Dec 15, 2010, 09:04 AM
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mistairjoe | |
mistairjoe Registered User Thread OP | Hi Laddie.Nice attempt on the M 33. I see you made the motor pod and wing one unit.Wires must have been pretty thin to get them down into the hull through the pod struts.I still think that along the M51 it is one of the prettiest racers made. Joe |
Dec 15, 2010, 09:23 AM
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DPlumpe | |
DPlumpe AMA 8711, FCC K4WZA | Laddie sent me his higher resolution 3-view. Here it is cleaned up and put in PDF format. Thanks, Laddie! FilesView all Files in thread
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Dec 15, 2010, 01:19 PM
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1post Suspended Account | Quote: Originally Posted by mistairjoe Wires must have been pretty thin to get them down into the hull through the pod struts. Yes that's lots of fun, running the wires through small struts. Quote: Originally Posted by LADDIE As I remember, my model was flying fine when flown relatively fast. I did not experienced any difficulty turning. The landings were unpredictable. Most of the time the model would land nicely. It depended on several factors, like speed, the wind direction and if approach is in the straight line or I was turning close to the water surface because obstacles. Other problem I had with the model was the water entering radio compartment. Specially if the water surface was choppy. No amount of Vaseline in the saddle area would seal it completely. I placed piece of sponge foam to the bottom of the fuselage so it would pick up small amount of water. I suspended the receiver so if wasnt touching sides or the bottom. Even that did not help. On one flight, just after takeoff the model rolled over and hit the water hard. That was end of my Macchi. I can relate to the sealing issues. My battery compartment is in front, and is completely sealed (in theory) from the inner fuse. I have a foam tape sealed receiver access hatch, which is the cocpit base under the pilot. Irregardless, water gets in there somehow. The ESC out on landing happened due to getting wet. Fortunately it did not happen further away, or I would have been doing a lot of rowing that day. The choppy water and a bit of side-side balance issues caused me to hand toss it. I learned that you do not use full throttle, and throw a bit upward. I was already anticipating the nose down, but not as much as it was at high power, thus down into the water. |
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Dec 25, 2010, 08:53 AM
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Kuni | |
Kuni Registered User | Hi, I own the Kyosho-Macchi M.33, which is a fine flyer. Sealing such a hatch is nearly impossible, so I use to install all hardware away from water: the RX at the top of the hull behind the wing, Servos an inch above the bottom, the ESC is completely sealed with silicone and installed inside the engine nacelle. Regards, ImagesView all Images in thread
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Dec 25, 2010, 01:06 PM
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1post Suspended Account | Quote: Originally Posted by Kuni Hi, I own the Kyosho-Macchi M.33, which is a fine flyer. Sealing such a hatch is nearly impossible, so I use to install all hardware away from water: the RX at the top of the hull behind the wing, Servos an inch above the bottom, the ESC is completely sealed with silicone and installed inside the engine nacelle. Regards, Hello Kuni and Merry XMas if you celebrate it. Your Kyosho Macchi had just been released when I build mine, and was a factor in motivating me to build the plane. Beautiful ARF, and it looks as if you and your flying buddy have done a good job of personalizing your planes. The hatch sealing is nearly impossible, so I decided to seal the compartment 100% from the remainder of the plane, or so I thought. Water still got inside. After flying, I sealed the plastic end of the battery compartment to the foam with yet more epoxy. It is amazing how water finds the smallest holes though. |
